CS8 to X8 conversion - Herkules ESC III V3
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redridinghood
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I have the 4s of these. I like them but take a while to arrive from HK.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16227__ZIPPY_Flightmax_8000mAh_5S1P_30C_.html
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16227__ZIPPY_Flightmax_8000mAh_5S1P_30C_.html
BorisS
Drone Enthusiast
Im going to be start using these. They are about 100g lighter than the Zippy 5s 8000
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18209__Turnigy_nano_tech_8000mAh_5S_25_50C_Lipo_Pack.html
Never had a problem with the nano techs
Boris
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__18209__Turnigy_nano_tech_8000mAh_5S_25_50C_Lipo_Pack.html
Never had a problem with the nano techs
Boris
BorisS
Drone Enthusiast
But the thought it not a bed idea, have you found out which pins are necessary for flashing ? Maybe good idea anyways to lay them out and do a servo plug male female solution to the usb board to flash them. I have the same issue that i have to disassemble a couple parts to safely get the micromath plugs or to take care that they are really attached nicely again. Eventually on a really productive bird these mircomatch plugs should be hot glued on anyways thus not removed on a regular basis.
redridinghood
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Maybe this helps. It seems to be doable, just connect the 3 signal wires on a plug so usb connection is easier.
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Im looking fir a female plug to make a new wire with an extension using the three programming wires. In any case does someone suspect there is any kind of trouble running two herkules boards together for an octo ufo? I m suffering very strange behaviour with the default firm (supossed to be 24° and FW on). Take off is a faith question until you can go away from ground effect. In flight it loos stable and smooth. Instant stick imputs to test gsin shows strange reaction like having ail and elev mixed. Didnt engage atti mode in fligt but the sound while iddle is quite strange and different. Going up with the ufo weigh doesnt change any thing.
Yes, manual only. Have not enough balls to switch to atti mode until manual mode troubles are solved. Have just reprogramed the lower herkules and will start with the upper one. May be there are a fault in the deffault firm like running one with FW and one without it so will load by myself both firms to be sure. Other than that I noticed the engines are running extremely cold, about 10° when the cx4 with the same supossed setup runs at no les than 60°C.
Ok. The droidworx octo plus Av130 and herkules is now flying. I cant feel any problem with the herkules without FW and on saturday will engage the FW. Compared with the Hoverflight I still prefer the stabilization of the HF over de DJI but could be due to the reasson Andreas write somewhere about a firm accomodation between dji and herkules he is rewritting. I'm actually using 240% gain in manual mode and only 50% in Atti mode, does such difference has sense?
redridinghood
Member
Do we have any updates on the issues between Herkules II and DJI?
I am getting bored grounded and thinking of stripping the Herk and using my good old plush.
I am getting bored grounded and thinking of stripping the Herk and using my good old plush.
BorisS
Drone Enthusiast
I am still grounded waiting for a part 
Hope thought that the coming week it will finally arrive and than i want to combine things and visit the Nuernberg toy show and visit Andreas in the same time period if the weather allows. I will keep you guys posted. I hope next two week are the weeks of movement in this matter.
Elossam, I think your gains are fine similar to were i had them in the last couple flights. You have to be i little more precise were the issues are about stabilization.
Boris
Hope thought that the coming week it will finally arrive and than i want to combine things and visit the Nuernberg toy show and visit Andreas in the same time period if the weather allows. I will keep you guys posted. I hope next two week are the weeks of movement in this matter. Elossam, I think your gains are fine similar to were i had them in the last couple flights. You have to be i little more precise were the issues are about stabilization.
Boris
Hi all. Cant be much more precise its a feeling. Normally I test the units at home garden where the litest breeze makes the ufo become crazy due to the rotor and lack of lineality of the wind gusts. Today I went away to an open area and flew the octo. It loves the stability of the breeze gusts Not a single glitch I can be that is related to the Herkules and DJI relation. Other than that I noticed the deplacement speed in atti or gps mode is quite reduced. It requires lot of stick and the unit sometimes slows the speed like trying to update the status. Sometimes a double white led flashes and have no idea about what does it mean as all seems to run perfect. At the end I went 10 mts. high and placed the thr stick in the first position of slow descending. It landed perfectly so the ufe and me went home with a big smile. As a conclusion, the axi 2217/20 plus graupner 10x5 are not a great combo as it gives a erratik yaw no matter the gain in use. The apc 10x4,7 gives a more stable behaviour, less noise, requires less amps but the engines suffer higher temperatures if the unit is forced to stay hovering long time. . Hope to be able to run the FW on firm next week.
BorisS
Drone Enthusiast
Just a little update !
I am going to setup my bird this week with some changes concerning heat sink for the Hercs etc.
I should be done latest end of this week.
Than i am going to try to get a appointment as soon as possible with Andreas. He is also keen already that we start testing the WKM on the Octo.
I will take:
11 x 5 graupners.
12 x 3.8 CF 11 grams
14 x 4 JXF Wooden props
14 x 4.7 APC
LIPOS 4s 5s 6s
I hope that we can get done to the core of the surges.
Changing timing will probably not work but lets see how much time we have.
Boris
I am going to setup my bird this week with some changes concerning heat sink for the Hercs etc.
I should be done latest end of this week.
Than i am going to try to get a appointment as soon as possible with Andreas. He is also keen already that we start testing the WKM on the Octo.
I will take:
11 x 5 graupners.
12 x 3.8 CF 11 grams
14 x 4 JXF Wooden props
14 x 4.7 APC
LIPOS 4s 5s 6s
I hope that we can get done to the core of the surges.
Changing timing will probably not work but lets see how much time we have.
Boris
ichwillnix
Member
Here is the movie we made with the Quadrocopter setup.
As it was pretty windy, the flight was not so stable but we couldn't recognize the famous surges with this setup.
The Oktokopter Skijib is already finished and the Herkules to Boris is on the way. We hope we can test soon and we keep you on track.
Andreas
As it was pretty windy, the flight was not so stable but we couldn't recognize the famous surges with this setup.
The Oktokopter Skijib is already finished and the Herkules to Boris is on the way. We hope we can test soon and we keep you on track.
Andreas
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Ok. Here my report. The unit was a droidworx octo with Av130 gimbal powered by axi 2217/20 and apc 10x4.7 TOW 3620 gr (520 gr payload included) Dji gain seting manual:200 atti: 43 calm wind conditions. Stable flight in general. In manual mode it look very responsible and nice to fly. Engine sound looks stable. In atti or gps mode the stick reaction ys way more reduced, like having a 80% dual rate enable. Hover is stable but sometimes it makes corrections by apparently no reason and that is making me crazy. Its not a gain question. Gps led is rock solid OFF but a simple breeze makes the unit drift and the reduced stick authority makes it difficult to fight with the breeze. About Freeweling, cant advise any diference between having it on or off. Turning it on reduces the consumption a 3% from 37A to 36 A (12w). Should I turn it off again for security questions or not?