Tau Labs Y4 with copter control

matwelli

Member
Revisited the Y4 tonite , reconfigured my minsoo kim quad into a tri, and used the landing gear and motor adaptors from my frame design, and whiped up a Y4

First test is per std Y4 accepted practice, equal props and motors , and as last time, it stunk.

Rear motor speed is set to 62% of the front

The problem is, you only have the rear motors for yaw control, and couple to the fact when all 4 motors are identical, the rear props need to run at 1/2 the thrust of the front props, you get weak yaw, couple with pitching forward whenever you yaw (as the rear props start to bite teh air and make lift)

So, the answer (so far anyway) is, to put smaller props on the back

Im running 10 by 4.5 on front and 8 by 4 on the rear, all motors are flycam 925's

The secret is running the rears at 83% of the front speed, easily done with copter control

will shoot some vid tomorrow

test hop tonite was in the kitchen, about 4ft square by 10 ft high space (with two curious cats hanging around)

Custom mix
(note 127 is 100%)

motor 1 front left
Curve = 127 (throttle)
Roll= 64
Pitch =64
Yaw =0 (none

motor 2 front right
Curve = 127
Roll= -64
Pitch =64
Yaw =0

motor 3 rear CW
Curve = 105 (83% of front)
Roll= 0
Pitch = -64
Yaw = -127

motor 4 rear CCW
Curve = 105
Roll= 0
Pitch = -64
Yaw = 127

Im also running the pitch gain about 1.4 times as high as roll to help combat any pitching with yaw
 

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matwelli

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so far, copter control is super easy compared to , say ardupilot, where mixing involves code hacking.

an example is attached, its the figures I typed in to get a Y4, 2 minutes work

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matwelli

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Testing outside in the wind revealed a serious issue - no where near enough yaw controll to hold its own, and maxed out, pitch is compromised
Broke 5 props testing

so, quick re-config, mounted both motors, side by side at a 30 deg V, and now its a fun machine ! yaw is very authoritive

Handles the wind, and you fly it like a tricopter, mixing yaw and roll for gracefull forward turns

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matwelli

Member
Never !!


I actually owned one once, my first ever multi, 900mm wide from 1" angle ally

 
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matwelli

Member
Here we go, vid of the KiwiRC Vtail Quad


this is the best handling multi i have flowen
 
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Bartman

Welcome to MultiRotorForums.com!!
go find yourself a table and start practicing! cool looking little machine you've got there. i can see the neighborhood kids having all sorts of nightmares
 


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