Trappy vs FAA

Kilby

Active Member
This is interesting. The man that many have claimed is going to bring an end to our hobby may in fact be the one that finally makes it legal to do commercially.

http://www.law360.com/articles/477728/drone-pilots-immune-from-faa-fines-judge-told

Law360, New York (October 03, 2013, 2:05 PM ET) -- A model airplane operator facing fines from the Federal Aviation Administration for allegedly buzzing Virginia buildings and pedestrians at dangerously low heights to snap photos has asked an administrative judge for exoneration, saying the FAA lacks authority to penalize civilian drone pilots.

Raphael Pirker argued to a National Transportation Safety Board judge last Friday that the FAA contrived a case against him for allegedly flying his model aircraft around the University of Virginia in response to political pressure over its failure to regulate commercial unmanned aircraft systems.

So-called civilian drones have earned the scorn of civil libertarians for their purported privacy infringements and potential for abuse by law enforcement, and the FAA responded with an impermissible effort to expand its Federal Aviation Rules to a 5-pound plastic foam device, according to Pirker’s motion to dismiss.

“The FAA, aware of this change in public perception, has made an effort to delay and curtail civilian ‘drone’ activity by asserting in policy statements that ‘business’ or ‘commercial’ operations are prohibited and that some or all of the FARs apply,” the motion said. “However, neither the commercial ‘ban’ on drones nor the application of the FARs ... is legally enforceable because the FAA has failed to undertake the requisite rulemaking procedures that would be required to put in place such new regulation.”

The motion says there is no existing federal aviation regulation restricting the operation of model aircraft, and that small unmanned aircraft have historically been governed by voluntary safety guidelines, with plane operators being kept in check only by state tort laws holding reckless flying activities to account.

Pirker, a Swiss citizen residing overseas, was hit with a $10,000 proposed fine by the FAA in June for allegedly piloting a small gliding aircraft at low heights around the university's campus to take aerial shots for an advertising agency. According to the complaint, he did not have FAA piloting certification, and flew as low as 10 feet above ground near buildings and pedestrian walkways.

The FAA claimed that the flights violated a single provision of the FARs stating that “that no person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another,” the FAA said.

The enforcement action was the first ever against an unmanned aircraft system operator, according to Pirker's attorney Brendan M. Schulman of Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP.

In his response on Friday, Pirker contended that the FAA has failed to move forward with steps to promulgate new regulations to integrate civil unmanned aircraft safely into the national aerospace system despite a congressional mandate to do so by 2015 in the FAA Modernization Reauthorization and Reform Act of 2012.

“This inability by the agency to move forward with new proposed regulations in a timely manner accounts for why the FAA has resorted to delay tactics such as cease-and-desist letters and, here, the unprecedented pursuit of a civil penalty against a model airplane operator,” the motion said. “But it has done so by issuing ‘policy statements,’ not by valid rulemaking.”

The FAA is purportedly relying on a 2007 policy statement articulating two new rules outlawing model aircraft operation for business purposes without a waiver or special airworthiness certificate and subjecting operators to the FARs.

The statement formed the basis for the instant complaint, according to Pirker’s motion, but is unenforceable under the Administrative Procedure Act because the FAA never complied with the notice-and-comment requirements for publicly binding rulemakings.

The statement, which was touted as a de facto ban on commercial drones, could plausibly be viewed as an “interpretative rule” exempt from APA requirements, but in that case its extension of FARs to model aircraft is invalid because such an interpretation conflicts with existing laws and long-standing agency practice, the motion said.

Schulman told Law360 that the FAA's approach of sending cease-and-desist letters to drone operators has put the country’s nascent commercial drone industries on hold for over six years and kept beneficial, safe and noncontroversial applications from being developed.

FAA efforts to accommodate drone use took a step forward in July, when the agencyapproved the first two such aircraft for commercial use. Bills have also been floated in both houses of Congress addressing concerns that current privacy laws do not adequately protect the public against drones' surveillance capabilities.

Representatives for the FAA were not immediately available for comment on Thursday.

Pirker is represented by Brendan M. Schulman of Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP.

The case is Administrator v. Raphael Pirker, Docket No. CP-217, before the National Transportation Safety Board.
 

FlyGirl

Member
Just curious Terry but do you know which two aircraft they have approved? I'm betting it wasn't anything that we use and was some high end grade UAV...

ps Missed you at Charm City Fly In....
 



FlyGirl

Member
Yeah, both fixed wing long flight machines. I think one is an AeroVironment Puma. Both are in use up around Alaska some where for pipe line inspection or something.

I wanted to come out to the fly-in, but we had a few other commitments that day. It looks like you all had a good time though! I look forward to seeing you at a meet up soon.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/31/faa-approves-commercial-surveillance-drones/

-Terry

God, the comments at the end of that Endgadget article are so paranoid....
 



Kilby

Active Member
God, the comments at the end of that Endgadget article are so paranoid....

I make it a point to never read the comments section of any public news site. It hurts my brain to see how stupid people are these days.
 


Bartman

Welcome to MultiRotorForums.com!!
that case will either open it all up or lock it down. until now, whether it's been said or unsaid, the strategy they're using was there for all of us if we ever ended up where he is now. he's playing the one card we all had available. he wins, we all win. he loses, we all lose.

stay tuned, right?
 


DucktileMedia

Drone Enthusiast
I think long range FPV should not be legal to everyone. I however dont think it should be illegal either. It's almost better leaving some things a "dont ask dont tell" self regulated policy. But when the word gets out it is legal for anyone can you imagine the hazards that will be amongst us? Look at how many idiots crash their phantoms. Now imagine they are free to add UHF and FPV??? This is not for everyone. Even Kloner has the decency to drive hours away from home to test his units and he actually knows what he is doing. But as things get cheaper and smaller, this is definitely not going to be an easy answer.
 

sixshooterstang

Bird's Eyes Aerial Media
so in other words a plug in and go uhf and fpv system should not be available. There are some systems that are pretty simple but still not simple enough for the crazy beginners.
 

DucktileMedia

Drone Enthusiast
I dont necessarily think it matters if it is easy or hard to install FPV, overall it's a pretty simple thing and for anyone who reads this or some other forums, they would have it figured out in a matter of minutes. Just imagine if everyone who had a phantom could fly 10'000' in the sky? And they can. People in general are irresponsible and impulsive. When, and it will happen, the first fpv'er takes down or seriously harms a commercial aircraft, things will get hairy really quick. it's all a numbers game. I'm totally guessing but 2-3 years ago there were probably 10-50 people around the world doing this. Now there are probably between 250,000 and 500,000 people who have purchased some sort of rc heli that is capable of lifting at least a gopro.
 



Well lets see what happens in court. If Trappy just paid the fine it would have thrown everybody under the bus so he did well to try and fight this.

This is the full text of the FAA's complaint against him

http://www.suasnews.com/2013/10/25471/the-faas-complaint-against-trappy/

This is the meat of it

9. For example, you deliberately operated the above-described aircraft in the following manner:
a. You operated the aircraft directly towards an individual standing on a UVA sidewalk causing the individual to take immediate evasive maneuvers so as to avoid being struck by your aircraft.
b. You operated the aircraft through a UVA tunnel containing moving vehicles.
c. You operated the aircraft under a crane.
d. You operated the aircraft below tree top level over a tree lined walkway.
e. You operated the aircraft within approximately 15 feet of a UVA statue,
f You operated the aircraft within approximately 50 feet of railway tracks.
g. You operated the aircraft within approximately 50 feet of numerous individuals.
h. You operated the aircraft within approximately 20 feet of a UVA active street
containing numerous pedestrians and cars.
i. You operated the aircraft within approximately 25 feet of numerous UVA
buildings.
j . You operated the aircraft on at least three occasions under an elevated pedestrian
walkway and above an active street.
k. You operated the aircraft directly towards a two story UVA building below rooftop
level and made an abrupt climb in order to avoid hitting the building.
l. You operated the aircraft within approximately 100 feet of an active heliport at UVA.

10. Additionally, in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another, you operated the above-described aircraft at altitudes between 10 and 1500 feet AGL when you failed to take precautions to prevent collision hazards with other aircraft that may have been flying within the vicinity of your aircraft.

11. By reason of the above, you operated an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another. By reason of the foregoing, you violated the following section(s) of the Federal Aviation Regulations: Section 91.13(a), which states that no person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.

I am amazed at the number of folks that did not know 2007 changes to airlaw pretty much worldwide made anything that can sustain flight and can be controlled three axis and does not have a pilot on board an aircraft.

Lets see how it plays out, Trappy is talking about it at a conference this week, Patrick from sUAS News is also speaking so we are hoping to get the hot poop!
 


R_Lefebvre

Arducopter Developer
that case will either open it all up or lock it down. until now, whether it's been said or unsaid, the strategy they're using was there for all of us if we ever ended up where he is now. he's playing the one card we all had available. he wins, we all win. he loses, we all lose.

That is *exactly* what is going on. So this will be interesting to watch.

Wonder if they have fined any commercial users yet

Nope. Only C&D letters. I think they didn't want to do something that would trigger this court case. I'm sure they know their position is tenuous. Forcing a court case would risk a loss, which would remove their authority. But they pretty much had to fine Trappy. Because if they didn't... again, their authority becomes diluted. So in a way, Trappy forced them to Force a court case, and now we all get to sit back and finally have this thing decided once and for all.

Just curious Terry but do you know which two aircraft they have approved? I'm betting it wasn't anything that we use and was some high end grade UAV...

Both very high end ex-military machines. $100,000+, maybe even $1M+?

And I believe both have crashed due to mechanical/electrical failures! :highly_amused:
 


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