restrictions about lipos?
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Hi there,
Not sure about internal US flights but the International ( IATA ) regulations are that you have to carry Lithium Batteries in hand luggage ( not allowed in hold luggage ) and you are limited to 100wh per battery so you cannot legally fly your 8000mah 6s batts or your 5000mah 6s batts. For this very reason we use 4000mah 6s batteries which are 90wh. Batteries should be either individually packaged or at least the battery contacts should be taped up. I think also the regulation may have been changed recently to only allow 2 batteries to be carried by each passenger however I regularly fly with more and whilst we often get pulled up at security to check them once we tell them what they are and quote the 100wh they are usually fine and not worried how many we have. maybe others have different experiences? I always carry a copy of the IATA regulations with us.
Not sure about internal US flights but the International ( IATA ) regulations are that you have to carry Lithium Batteries in hand luggage ( not allowed in hold luggage ) and you are limited to 100wh per battery so you cannot legally fly your 8000mah 6s batts or your 5000mah 6s batts. For this very reason we use 4000mah 6s batteries which are 90wh. Batteries should be either individually packaged or at least the battery contacts should be taped up. I think also the regulation may have been changed recently to only allow 2 batteries to be carried by each passenger however I regularly fly with more and whilst we often get pulled up at security to check them once we tell them what they are and quote the 100wh they are usually fine and not worried how many we have. maybe others have different experiences? I always carry a copy of the IATA regulations with us.
The UK CAA rules are as follows:
Lipos up to 100 Wh (e.g. 3S 2200maH LIPO = 27.72 Wh) must be carried in hand luggage and in original packaging or with insulated terminals (e.g. tape). No limit on quantity, up to allowable hand luggage weight.
A battery inside the device (i.e. your copter) can be in hand luggage OR in checked baggage, with size limits as above. Spares must never be put in checked baggage.
Lipos over 100 Wh but less than 160 Wh must be in hand luggage, in original packaging or with insulated terminals, and no more than 2 of them.
Reference for the CAA is here: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1219/srg_d...ry20100416.pdf
My understanding of the US FAA rules is as above for the UK, but you can take up to two 100 to 300 Wh as well as one in the copter, rather than the limit of 160 Wh. I have heard it said that each battery must be in its own insulating safety pouch, though have seen contradictions of this too.
Lipos up to 100 Wh (e.g. 3S 2200maH LIPO = 27.72 Wh) must be carried in hand luggage and in original packaging or with insulated terminals (e.g. tape). No limit on quantity, up to allowable hand luggage weight.
A battery inside the device (i.e. your copter) can be in hand luggage OR in checked baggage, with size limits as above. Spares must never be put in checked baggage.
Lipos over 100 Wh but less than 160 Wh must be in hand luggage, in original packaging or with insulated terminals, and no more than 2 of them.
Reference for the CAA is here: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/1219/srg_d...ry20100416.pdf
My understanding of the US FAA rules is as above for the UK, but you can take up to two 100 to 300 Wh as well as one in the copter, rather than the limit of 160 Wh. I have heard it said that each battery must be in its own insulating safety pouch, though have seen contradictions of this too.
RotorJockey
Member
Read-up new regulationa on ICAO International Website about lithium batteries in aircraft/checked luggage at http://www.nema.org/Policy/Environmental-Stewardship/Documents/Summary%20of%202013%20ICAO%20Changes%20Lithium%20Batteries.pdf. I had trouble with NiMh batts for hand-held recently. Officials seem to be skittish!
Thanks, appreciate it a lot! I learned something about regulations. What about 4500Mah which are 99.9wh?
Wh = mAh × V / 1000
Wh = mAh × V / 1000
Thank you
RotorJockey
Member
'Scuse the delay!
The regs apply to "new safety requirements for air shipment of lithium batteries and associated equipment". 'Air shipment' would apply equally to accompanied baggage and to unaccompanied baggage. Carriers are notoriously lax at interpreting and applying new regs - or they just go moggy, taking the reg out of context and mis-applying them.
After the debacle with the Dream Liner, things are about to get even tighter. At least one of the incidents was with battery in the 'rest' mode; others while charging/discharging.
Scary stuff ...
The regs apply to "new safety requirements for air shipment of lithium batteries and associated equipment". 'Air shipment' would apply equally to accompanied baggage and to unaccompanied baggage. Carriers are notoriously lax at interpreting and applying new regs - or they just go moggy, taking the reg out of context and mis-applying them.
After the debacle with the Dream Liner, things are about to get even tighter. At least one of the incidents was with battery in the 'rest' mode; others while charging/discharging.
Scary stuff ...
tahoelight
Member
I've had no issue carrying a 3 lipos bags packed with a couple dozen 4s and 5s batteries on flights as carry on. They did pull me asside to inspect, but let me through after a quick scan. Pack them like you care about safety. This has been for both US and international flights. I did get my nice MIP Hex Driver set taken away when I accidentally left it in my carry on. That sucked.