Kloner! Yes we have probably been at the same funflys together, like San Diego fun fly, and the helifreak one in October. Been flying for five or so years for heli manufacturers, have come to the conclusion that it's always going to be just a hobby never any money, and I have come along way looking to apply my skills in the coming drone era. There are money people looking to get into this that's why I'm searching these forums, but it seems many propel need a expert pilot for some of there work.