Programming ESC's

Kilby

Active Member
Of all the time i've been working on single & multi rotor copters, I've never once had to program my ESC's. I've always been lucky enough to have them work out of the box. I think that luck has ended though and I need some help wrapping my head around this.

I'm flying an x650 frame with 4 Avroto motors, DYS (hobbywing) 30amp esc's & 11x5 graupner props. When I switched to the 11 inch props I started getting some strange pulsing on the throttle. It's been suggested a couple times now that I change the esc programing, so that's my next step.

Anyone have any advice on settings for that combo of gear? Below is a list of all the programable settings in the ESC.

Thanks in advance!

-Terry




Programmable Items:
1. Brake Setting£ºEnabled / Disabled, default is Disabled
2. Battery Type£ºLi-xx(Li-ion or Li-poly) / Ni-xx(NiMH or NiCd)£¬default is Li-xx.
3. Low Voltage Protection Mode(Cut-Off Mode)£º Soft Cut-Off (Gradually reduce the output power) or Cut-Off (Immediately stop the output power). Default is Soft Cut-Off.
4. Low Voltage Protection Threshold(Cut-Off Threshold)£ºLow / Medium / High, default is Medium.
1) For lithium batteries, the number of battery cells is calculated automatically. Low / medium / high cutoff voltage for each cell is: 2.6V/2.85V/3.1V. For example: For a 3 cells lithium pack, when ¡°Medium¡± cutoff threshold is set, the cut-off voltage will be: 2.85*3=8.55V.
2) For nickel batteries, low / medium / high cutoff voltages are 0%/45%/60% of the startup voltage (i.e. the initial voltage of battery pack), and 0% means the low voltage cut-off function is disabled. For example: For a 10 cells NiMH battery, fully charged voltage is 1.44*6=8.64V, when ¡°Medium¡± cut-off threshold is set, the cut-off voltage will be:8.64*50%=4.3V¡£
5. Startup Mode£ºNormal /Soft /Super-Soft, default is Normal.
Normal is preferred for fixed-wing aircraft. Soft or Super-soft are preferred for helicopters. The initial acceleration of the Soft and Super-Soft modes are slower in comparison, usually taking 1 second for Soft startup or 2 seconds for Super-Soft startup from initial throttle advance to full throttle. If the throttle is closed (throttle stick moved to bottom) and opened again (throttle stick moved to top) within 3 seconds of the initial startup, the restart-up will be temporarily changed to normal mode to get rid of the chances of a crash caused by slow throttle response. This special design is very suitable for aerobatic flight when quick throttle response is needed.
6. Timing£ºLow / Medium / High, default is Low.
Usually, low timing value can be used for most motors. We recommend the Low timing value for 2 poles motor and Medium timing value for motors with more than 6 poles to get a high efficiency. For higher speed, High timing value can be chosen.
 

Kilby

Active Member
No one has any recommendations? I think the only thing I might need to change would be the timing. Should I just go for "high" and see how it works?

-Terry
 

Bartman

Welcome to MultiRotorForums.com!!
Terry
1 Brake disabled
2 Battery type is NiMH
3 cut-off doesn't matter because by using NiMH it will never reach the low voltage point and drop you from the sky unexpectedly
4 LV protection, set to LOW (remember, you don't want low voltage protection)
5 Normal
6 Try Medium but I went to High after a bit and saw better flying and better battery times. you'll just have to try one setting and see how it goes for you.

Good luck and have fun!
 


Bartman

Welcome to MultiRotorForums.com!!
i don't think so unless it will give you peace of mind to know the ESC's are all intact and ready to fly again.
 

Vojec

Member
Thank you for info... will do that it will take about 10-20 min... :) and as you said most important "peace of mind" :)
 

Kilby

Active Member
I finally got around to programming these and I'm seeing something very strange. Maybe someone has seen this before.

I got through 3 of the 4 esc's with no problem, but one of them refuses to go into programing mode. No matter what I try, it still thinks it's in normal mode. Has anyone ever seen anything like this? I get the normal 3 beeps no matter what.
 

BorisS

Drone Enthusiast
Killby are you using a progamming card or are you using the receiver Radio throttle method ? Can you calibrate the ESC or does that also not work ?

Edit. Do you have a servo tester ? than hook it up to the ESC and see if it even spins up the motor ?

Boris
 

Kilby

Active Member
I'm using the throttle method. I've had zero trouble with any of the ESC's, but it's throwing a fit now that I want to program it. Do you think I'd have better luck with a programming card?

I don't have a servo tester, but the esc will spin the motor, i'm just worried that they aren't all set to the same timing now.
 

BorisS

Drone Enthusiast
hmm strange one. If it spins the motors the ESC gets a ppm signal thats for sure, so cabling is working also.

Its not only timing but voltage protection cut off battery type etc that could be different now. Can you still enter the menu on the other ESCs. Could it be that you changed something in your Radio RX TX setup, Throttle curve trims etc. ? That the ESC dosent want to enter the menu anymore.

Does throttle calibration work, did you calibrate all the other ESCS ?

Boris
 

Kilby

Active Member
Hmm.. You got me thinking, so I did some more tests after giving up on it for the day. (the sofa was calling my name on this lazy sunday) I can still enter programming mode on the other ESC's with no problem.

I hooked everything back up to see if they still responded as they did before I started the exercise. Under normal use, the ESC's would beep 3 times while raising in pitch, then once more a second or so later. Now the one that I"m having troubles with beeps three times, then 1 time, but it's on a different timing and the beeps are mono toned and do not change in pitch like the others.

I did make a minore change to my radio, but it didn't bother the other ESC's. Since i'm on a Futaba, I needed to have my throttle reversed. Previously, I did that in the DJI assistant, but I quickly realize that when I needed to use the throttle to program the ESC's, it would need to be reversed in the radio and set the DJI back to normal.

Any ideas? This is killing me as I was just working fine, but wanted to tune the ESC's to try and make use of some larger props I have that didn't want to work right with the old programming on the esc's.
 

Kilby

Active Member
I got it working. I guess it was stuck in calibration mode. Once I calibrated it, it let me get into programming mode. This throttle method is a pain in the @$$. I'll be ordering a programming card tomorrow.

Thanks for the help, Boris. Sometimes just talking it out with someone is what you need. ;-)
 

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