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Thanks - With all that in mind is there a "trainer" quad option or is a clone 450/Phantom/TBS (Clone) classed as training?

Thanks - That to me seems the problem with some of the quads, the controller is part of the deal. I think what you're saying is build?? Again, are you coming on the side of build? - Speeling mistakes accepted :)

Great thanks for that. I would be interested to know the thoughts on purchase to learn and then sell to buy something better OR accept that it will crash whatever and just replace parts on something that will stay with me for a while. Thanks again!

OK, having lurked for a little while it seems time to get posting. Looking at a quadcopter for the following reasons: 1. To get started in the hobby 2. To connect a GoPro 3+ and take some aerial footage 3. In time use FPV equipment Considerations: 1. Have a limited budget and don't want to...