DJI issue,s

[auevtech]

compatibility

If you have any compatibility question about some esc's you can ask me. But I advise you to use hobby-wing, good manufactures esc's for a reasonable price. It is a hardware and software compatibility. In order to make your esc's compatible you would have to ship it to them and they would have to modify it for you. I don't believe they would do it just for a unit user. We are working in close hand with because we have a special project, so they are ready to make this change for us. On the other hand, you can find the list of compatible esc's somewhere, I already saw it.

Kind regards

chris

 

[BorisS]

ja well hobbywing cant be their last answer though. I am fine with my hercules, www.andreasbaier.de, but there has to be additional high quality options for people who want to take up expensive equipment !. If my camera equipment even in the lower range is around 1000 to 3000 euros, i think most would be willing to pay 100$ 150$ for a ESC thats really is secure, additionally adding on that some of the birds without equipment already go into the 5 digits.

I hope the project you are working on with them is a dedicated ESC of high quality and multirotor friendly firmware on it ? !

Thanks

Boris

 

[Tigar]

Well all work fine now , found it but sorry cant share it
Im a gray reseller and need to help myself
Last post on this form to much politics here, sorry

O yes seems that our friend victor has the hrekules working after cleaning , but didmt somehow mentioned it.

Have fun all...

You just lost another potential client. I cannot imagine how someone knows the solution for an issue, post that he knows it and then refuses to share...
Have fun...

 

[DennyR]

FWIW. There are some other issues that can effect compatibility. Although some ESC's will appear to be functioning perfectly it is wise to check that they don't lose sync. when the throttle is advanced rapidly. Some 600 kv. motors will run fine on a servo tester with a slow throttle advance however snap it open from mid range and the motors will run rough followed by a squeaL and then they stop. In the model you may not find that out until you hit some turbulence when the controller starts to output some rapid changes. Advance setting and prop. weight will affect this dramatically. It could be quite a dangerous scenario!!! I have some ongoing investigation with a manufacturer. In this case the ESC's were supplied by the motor manufacturer. More follows....

 

[Droider]

FWIW. There are some other issues that can effect compatibility. Although some ESC's will appear to be functioning perfectly it is wise to check that they don't lose sync. when the throttle is advanced rapidly. Some 600 kv. motors will run fine on a servo tester with a slow throttle advance however snap it open from mid range and the motors will run rough followed by a squeaL and then they stop. In the model you may not find that out until you hit some turbulence when the controller starts to output some rapid changes. Advance setting and prop. weight will affect this dramatically. It could be quite a dangerous scenario!!! I have some ongoing investigation with a manufacturer. In this case the ESC's were supplied by the motor manufacturer. More follows....

I think I may be experienceing this toward the end of the flight when the battery pack is down.. does battery voltage play a part in this Denny?

Dave

 

[DennyR]

Dave
What I think you may be experiencing is the ESC is going into shut down mode before the DJI voltage regulator. If you disable the DJI then your esc's will start to give a warning that battery damage may occur if you keep going (depends on how you set em). However, thats ok for a single prop but, they are not accurate enough to sync together so you can get some unstable flight warnings. I have had this also. The above is a different issue IMHO.

 

[Lanzar]

Dr. Sevilla,

thanks thats what i was also thinking that some are not compatible at all and wont work. But its a silly one because there has to be something different on port M1 than on the others. DJI should be able to change that. Or if they would finally say make a list which ESCs work and which wont.

But thanks to Sandor who is either giving false information by saying he figured it out or not giving us the answer because he was so mistreated here we can keep on looking.

Boris

I think sandor didn't figured it out. He is just teasing us. I still havent given up on the controlers. Tried every posible thing and no luck. But where is will there is a solution

 

[DennyR]

FWIW. There are some other issues that can effect compatibility. Although some ESC's will appear to be functioning perfectly it is wise to check that they don't lose sync. when the throttle is advanced rapidly. Some 600 kv. motors will run fine on a servo tester with a slow throttle advance however snap it open from mid range and the motors will run rough followed by a squeaL and then they stop. In the model you may not find that out until you hit some turbulence when the controller starts to output some rapid changes. Advance setting and prop. weight will affect this dramatically. It could be quite a dangerous scenario!!! I have some ongoing investigation with a manufacturer. In this case the ESC's were supplied by the motor manufacturer. More follows....

The motors that I am talking about are of course the very excellent Tiger Motor 4008's I did not hear back from them so I did the investigation myself and found the answer.
The 4008's are 600 kv. In other words low Kv but you would be wrong in assuming that they should be set up with a low advance ESC setting or assume that their own ESC's would come correctly set. I set them to high and the problem was solved. Happy Days.

 

[Droider]

The motors that I am talking about are of course the very excellent Tiger Motor 4008's I did not hear back from them so I did the investigation myself and found the answer.
The 4008's are 600 kv. In other words low Kv but you would be wrong in assuming that they should be set up with a low advance ESC setting or assume that their own ESC's would come correctly set. I set them to high and the problem was solved. Happy Days.

Denny so you are finding the low Kv of the Tigers are OK? what batteries are you using?

Dave

 

[RTRyder]

Hobbywing ESC

FYI, Hobbywing ESC is also Turnigy Plush, DYS, Exceed Proton, and a few others I can't remember at the moment. They are virtually the same exact ESC under the shrink wrap and although there may be minor variations in the firmware, if it can be programmed with the Hobbywing or Turnigy program card, it's the same ESC. Up until recently all of the Hobbywing variations have had Atmel8 processors, lately they've been using Silabs processors in new production, so if you order you might get one or the other or a mix of both as the older Atmel equipped stock gets used up.

Ken

 

[DennyR]

Dave I am using 5.800mA 14.8V. 30C The prop.is a special 11x4 carbon that weighs only 14grams It is a wide paddle type of design. Rapid response and lift efficiency is the aim.
It is well ahead of the 14x4.7 APC which was until this one the best I have tested on the rig for lift efficiency. as for response time it is ahead by miles.

These props are very thin and dangerous so I can only use them on the F1 which has a shroud. Thus far I have never broken a prop with a shroud so it will always be a part of my designs. The monocoque design of the F1 will be revealed shortly. It is a one piece molding that incorporates the motor arms in a unique way. very light, small and it floats on water. Every gram counts so many new camera mount ideas are incorporated into the integral package. Naza Controller to save weight. 530 between motors in a slight butterfly shape. I did a lot of testing to arrive at this size. MF.

It will have a heavy lift capability with different motors and three blade props.

 

[Bartman]

Regarding the original author of this thread
He mistakenly replied to a PM by sending it to the site email address which was then automatically forwarded to my email address. In the PM he refused a request by another site member when asked about his solution for the problems he had with his ESC's. I notified him that he sent it to me instead of the original sender and in his reply he boasted that's he's NOW a DJI dealer thus confirming that he wasn't at the time of his sale which is what started this torrid stream of ill-will and he's now banned from the site.
Quite frankly, there are enough good vendors out there that are very happy to provide service and support. Many of them participate here peacefully and without issues or drama.
Hopefully, this sort of thing will be left behind in 2011 and not continue in 2012. I don't have time for it and I don't think anyone benefits from seeing it played out in the open here or anywhere else.

Bart

 

[Sebas600]

Regarding the original author of this thread
He mistakenly replied to a PM by sending it to the site email address which was then automatically forwarded to my email address. In the PM he refused a request by another site member when asked about his solution for the problems he had with his ESC's. I notified him that he sent it to me instead of the original sender and in his reply he boasted that's he's NOW a DJI dealer thus confirming that he wasn't at the time of his sale which is what started this torrid stream of ill-will and he's now banned from the site.
Quite frankly, there are enough good vendors out there that are very happy to provide service and support. Many of them participate here peacefully and without issues or drama.
Hopefully, this sort of thing will be left behind in 2011 and not continue in 2012. I don't have time for it and I don't think anyone benefits from seeing it played out in the open here or anywhere else.

Bart

Amen!

 

[quadcopters]

It was always a mystery to me why the original poster on here never contributed to the site but was more than happy to use it as a free advertising method .

 

[Droider]

Regarding the original author of this thread
He mistakenly replied to a PM by sending it to the site email address which was then automatically forwarded to my email address. In the PM he refused a request by another site member when asked about his solution for the problems he had with his ESC's. I notified him that he sent it to me instead of the original sender and in his reply he boasted that's he's NOW a DJI dealer thus confirming that he wasn't at the time of his sale which is what started this torrid stream of ill-will and he's now banned from the site.
Quite frankly, there are enough good vendors out there that are very happy to provide service and support. Many of them participate here peacefully and without issues or drama.
Hopefully, this sort of thing will be left behind in 2011 and not continue in 2012. I don't have time for it and I don't think anyone benefits from seeing it played out in the open here or anywhere else.

Bart

Bart good decision. FULLY SUPPORTED BY ME 110%. Not sure why his Avitar is not showing. I think it would have been good for people to know who he was so they could make an informed decision if they wanted to use his services.

Now I can log on with out grinding my teeth and wondering what was going to be in my PM box.

I am sat in my Caravan on the shores of Loch Linnhe in Scotland waiting for Hogmanay and the cloud to lift and drizzle to stop.. NO WIND so hoping to get some good pics

Bring on 2012.. if the innovation is as fast flowing as 2011 god help my creditcard!

Dave

 

[moraesgyn]

Hello Guys,

anyone here had this problem? Seems like my DJI Naza M1 and M2 dont have enough juice on the signal pin.

I swapped the ESCs around, all of them work.
If I not use the M1 and M2 and set as Hexa, all ESCs will start up fine.

I am looking for someone that had this same problem, and found a solution.

BTW, I tried 5 different brands, including Hobbywing, Pentium, FlightPower... All have the same symptoms, they only start up on M3-M6.

I think my unit might be faulty, what you guys think?

I made a video of one of my tests.

Thanks in Advance,

Antonio Santos

 

[BorisS]

Hi Antonio,

looks like you are having similar problems like some others do with the M1 and M2 port. The funny thing though is that for those people it was with specific ESCs and they didnt have the issue with several different brands.
Seem in your case that it really is an issue with the ESCs.

Only thing that you can try but i am pretty sure you did that already is try to calibrate the ESCs either with your RX or Naza in Manual if that works. If it still doesnt work i cant say more than write DJI a support request and tell them
though that you tried different ESCs and that they all dont work. Otherwise you will get the excuse wrong ESCs etc.

Boris

 

[moraesgyn]

thanks Boris!

I already calibrated the ESCs, they even start fine on ports M3 to M6, I will try DJI support, lets see...

 

[jrcnelson]

I got a F450 with NAZA and worked on it all day to build and configure it. Bummer that the DJI servers were down all day and I had to wait until they were back up tonight in order to finish the firmware update and configuring my setup.

I am configured in a Quad X format and every time I power on the Quad, M3 is not initializing properly. I have tried 3 different ESCs and I get the same result.

SOMETHING found through trial and error - I have found that if I unplug the ESC from M3 after the others have been initialized the motor will start to beep and when I plug it back in it works perfectly until I power down the system.

Any new ideas? I have tried all of the suggestions posted in this thread with no luck - I am at a loss,

Like I said above, I can get it working - I just don't want to have to unplug the ESC from M3 ever time I want to fly.

Thank you for your time - -

 

[BorisS]

Jrcnelson,

I cant tell you more than start spamming DJI support. None of these ESCs issue in this thread or others were they didnt work from beginning on if it wasnt due to calibration were solved. Some one stated here that he resolved it but it was a lie.

Boris