Ok, here's the deal.I

[Tomstoy2]

I volunteered ot next week to pay for something, either djw-m or?
This is my shot so I'm taking it.

Got an RC Carbon small quad comming and a GoPro Hero 2. Already own an fy91q, and if the stars are in alignment, a chicken sacrificed, and a new-born baby surrendered it works damn good. In other words, it's too finiky and I am not comfortable tossing money around in the air under it's sole control. One day it works, the next not.

I want, demand dependability.

Is the DJW-m what I want? Can I depend upon it to have repeatable results? Or, should I be looking else where?

My desire is fpv. New at it, but with a dependable controller the risks decrease, though there is always a risk.

What are your thoughts, recommendations? What are your likes and dislikes?
No holding back now, just tell me what you think.

Not looking to start something here, so no squabbling.

I realize it's been asked a thousand times before, and I apologize, I have done my homework, but you all understand how it is with hard earned cash, so thanks in advance guys.

Plan on pulling the trigger is not finite then real soon.

 

[DucktileMedia]

Even my simulator isn't reliable! What are you expecting to hear? You are in the same boat as everyone else. The multi rotor world is still in it's infancy and needs time to become rock solid. if you look at the posts people write on here you can see there is truly not one manufacturer that makes a perfect unit. We all crash and lose money. So perhaps the best answer is, if you can't afford to keep throwing money at your heli it may not be the right sport.

Squabble

 

[Tomstoy2]

Fair enough. It's all AI, but not unlike fbl controllers.

Of those, I have 7 different but the one I depend on, the one that gives me the performance I want every time is the Skookum. I wouldn't hesitate recommending it to somebody wanting to enter fbl.

I'm a firm believer is the 'buy it right, buy it once' scenario, though not a greT follower of it or I would just have 7 Skookums!

Just want to honestly know that I'm not throwing good money after bad.

 

[rwilabee]

I had the fy91q and then got rid of it for the DJI WKM. I can tell you that the WKM out performs the fy91q that I had. Of course it is alot more money, but it will auto land on RTH if you want it to where the fy91q would not. I think that most of the folks on this forum have at least one WKM and I haven't heard much talk of the FY91q by the most active flyers here.

Rich

 

[Stacky]

It depends on how much you are willing to spend. When you can get your hands on one the Copter Control board from Open Pilot is excellent value for money and will do a superb job for FPV. If you just want it for fpv are boards capable of GPS required? They cost more and have features you probably won't need for fpv. I see footage out there from people using the basic old KK board for fpv. The problems I see from FC boards stem mostly from firmware issues etc and I don't see many that have hardware problems. Hardware issues seem to me to be mostly related to wiring, esc's, motors, radios etc. I have had one hardware issue with one of my Hoverflypro boards and that was a faulty barometer that was working but stopped working after a hard crash onto a sandy beach. Quite probably I killed the barometer in that instance. I would be inclined if I were you to get a Copter Control board as they are an excellent board, priced really well and you can learn with that and later on upgrade to something else later if you need. Not sure what upgrade you would need though as the CC board does a fair bit anyway.

 

[plingboot]

if i were starting again based on what i know know, having bought and tried a lot of stuff.

for an fpv set-up without gps position hold, i'd go for a naza controller and flamewheel frame. with gps hold, but not waypoints, then wookong and the flamewheel.

for waypoints, probably arducopter with apm v2 (6 week wait), the mikrokopter stuff might be more mature, but not worth the money IMHO as it takes a lot of time to configure (though i happen to enjoy that), but you could wreck the lot in one crash so, if money and support is an issue i think arducopter is about to come of age for a waypoint solution.

i love my dw frame, but with the mk heart it currently has, it's going to be a shelf queen for a long while until my flying is significantly improved.

i think the flamewheel frame is superb and absolutely ideal for fpv.

a naza flamewheel build would allow you to fit a fatshark cam, immersionrc vtx and immersionrc ezosd into a nice clean and robust set-up.

 

[jffry7]

I kinda agree with all they said. In fact Bart posted a thread about new guys should be warned when buying. I've learned it the hard way in the 5mos since I started multi. I've had Gaui 344/FY91Q/XA FC(didnt even bother to fly)/APM 2/WK-M and if you have time to try then go and buy with all your hearts out but if tight budget like me dont do what I did just read a little bit then see what others use and complain then select which suites you. But disclaimer just because one flies extremely smooth on a FC means you will have same result (far from it). Carefully following what they did may get you close.

Like on FBL controller its also a preference of the user, i have Gyrobot and Helicommand prefer them over the others while others hate them (mainly for price). Same with Multi's its a preference as all FC at the moment have different behaviour depending on what you want.

+1 plingboot

 

[DennyR]

There are a lot of people out there who will give you advice but if I were you I would listen to the people who can demonstrate that they know what they are doing with actual proof.

If you want the 'off the shelf' best combination. You need a Naza Controller in a 650 Xaircraft frame with a MC6500 pro camera mount. The guys out in the far east are not talking about it, they are doing it. It's not an Okto, it is not a Hexa and it does not weigh a ton. Get the idea, it's all about efficiency.

As for crashing, It is the same people who always do that and it's not likely to change.

http://www.foxtechfpv.com/mc-6500-pro-dual-axis-cam-mount-p-395.html

Make sure you watch the video.

No excuses about wind, or any of the other usual stuff. They just get on and do it.

FWIW The Camera mount is a virtual copy of my own. Only one thing will surpass this in the next year but it will cost three times as much, it has two important features that these guys didn't think of YET.

 

[RTRyder]

I've got a DJI F 450 kit that I've been flying for albout a week now, if you want a strong reliable multi for FPV you can't go wrong with one of these, especially at the price they're being sold at. DJI has within a short span of time proved that they can build multirotor flight controllers that are equal or better to every other controller currently on the market, and they do it with off the shelf components, no proprietary I2C controllers or unrelated bits of electronics wired together, just complete, easy to install and setup modules that work.

If you've had hands on with any of the FY boxes then you will be amazed at the simplicity and consistancy of the Naza controller. The F 450 frame is about as close to unbreakable as you're likely to find in the world of multirotors and the whole kit can be assembled and ready to fly in less than an hour.

I'll be setting mine up with my FPV gear as soon as I get some other projects off the bench. After having had the FPV setup on a few different frames and flight controllers I think this one will be the kit that it stays with for a long while.

Ken

P.S. sorry to potentially burst your bubble but the RC Carbon stuff is of highly variable quality, don't be surprised if what you receive doesn't live up to your expectations, especially if you bought it direct from Coptersky.

 

[DennyR]

Ken I think DJI will release a camera mount for the Flame wheel quite soon. That could change everything.

Carbon is very unreliable from cheap sources. Sometimes it is wet lay-up and sometimes tubes are made by the pultrusion method which is also crap. Prepreg is the right stuff for complex moldings. which is cured in an autoclave at around 270 deg. in a vac. bag which is then placed in a pressure vessel at high pressure. it is chalk and cheese. Just the prepgeg cloth alone is expensive so it does not come cheap if it's genuine. Tubes are actually better when made from Boron. Like golf club shafts.
I would not touch Coptersky. Many bad reports.