F550 Camera set-up: HELP!

[ShanghaiPhil]

Hey guys,

Ok, I am completely new to this, so please bare with me.

Current set-up:
DJI F550
6x2212 / 920KV engines
1045 blades
5000mAh Li-Po battery

I want to get, but don't know if this will weight down the hexacopter too much:
- WK system
- DYS gimbal (320g without motor) 1 motor is 92g can be up to 3 axis
- Canon EOS100D (Rebel SL1) 370g + battery 82g + kit lens 200g
- FPV

It feels like a lot of extra weight... is this too much?? any recommendations?
i am basically trying to get the most pixels on board...

THANKS!!

 

[leofuica]

Hey guys,

Ok, I am completely new to this, so please bare with me.

Current set-up:
DJI F550
6x2212 / 920KV engines
1045 blades
5000mAh Li-Po battery

I want to get, but don't know if this will weight down the hexacopter too much:
- WK system
- DYS gimbal (320g without motor) 1 motor is 92g can be up to 3 axis
- Canon EOS100D (Rebel SL1) 370g + battery 82g + kit lens 200g
- FPV

It feels like a lot of extra weight... is this too much?? any recommendations?
i am basically trying to get the most pixels on board...

THANKS!!

Hi, with this weigth and 5.ooomAh at the least 4 minutes, no more.
Its too heavy for F550, if you want more minutes use 4S and 12.000 mAh for 8 minutes, but overall weigth about 3,8 kilograms...at the limit border....:black_eyed:

 

[gtranquilla]

Been there.... done that!!!! Get thoroughly familiar with eCalc for multirotors and you will see that you need more thrust to lift your total AUW.....which includes camera, gimbal etc. And to do the lifting efficiently, you need larger diameter props and bigger motors. But to allow for larger diameter props you need more MR arm radius......etc. etc. Which is all the reason why there are larger Multirotors being manufactured and sold...... You can also get MR motor arm extenders to extend your MR diameter to allow for larger props but they also increase the MR weight...... welcome to the world of aerial video!!!!

Hey guys,

Ok, I am completely new to this, so please bare with me.

Current set-up:
DJI F550
6x2212 / 920KV engines
1045 blades
5000mAh Li-Po battery

I want to get, but don't know if this will weight down the hexacopter too much:
- WK system
- DYS gimbal (320g without motor) 1 motor is 92g can be up to 3 axis
- Canon EOS100D (Rebel SL1) 370g + battery 82g + kit lens 200g
- FPV

It feels like a lot of extra weight... is this too much?? any recommendations?
i am basically trying to get the most pixels on board...

THANKS!!

 

[gtranquilla]

Further to my previous posting..... just check out my signature for most of the items you will (i.e., the RCTimer RCT800 not the Cinestar 8....this is required to lift a Canon Rebel.... the remaining items you will require are the Turnigy Multistar 22pole 420kv motors and 15 x 5.5 carbon fiber paddle props. These are available from HobbyKing. If you undersize your motors with this size of airframe you will get too much wobble in the airframe that cannot be dialed out by Basic and Attitude parameter tuning. And there are many other solutions from other sources....

Hey guys,

Ok, I am completely new to this, so please bare with me.

Current set-up:
DJI F550
6x2212 / 920KV engines
1045 blades
5000mAh Li-Po battery

I want to get, but don't know if this will weight down the hexacopter too much:
- WK system
- DYS gimbal (320g without motor) 1 motor is 92g can be up to 3 axis
- Canon EOS100D (Rebel SL1) 370g + battery 82g + kit lens 200g
- FPV

It feels like a lot of extra weight... is this too much?? any recommendations?
i am basically trying to get the most pixels on board...

THANKS!!

 

[ShanghaiPhil]

Thank you very much guys!! That's really helpful!

OK, I don't have the time really to do a full full upgrade to a whole new platform... so what would be reasonable? What is the maximum magpixel I can get onboard while still keeping it safe and keeping my flight time to about 10 minutes...??

I was also looking at the NEX5 which is 370g battery included I believe...

 

[ShanghaiPhil]

Sorry, complete n00b here, what is eCalc? I'm assuming it's some kind of software to calculate weight/flight time?

I think I can settle for an NEX5 which is 465g lens and battery included... so that saves 300g. I just need to find a good reliable gimbal that's super light... I only really need one axis I think...

Been there.... done that!!!! Get thoroughly familiar with eCalc for multirotors and you will see that you need more thrust to lift your total AUW.....which includes camera, gimbal etc. And to do the lifting efficiently, you need larger diameter props and bigger motors. But to allow for larger diameter props you need more MR arm radius......etc. etc. Which is all the reason why there are larger Multirotors being manufactured and sold...... You can also get MR motor arm extenders to extend your MR diameter to allow for larger props but they also increase the MR weight...... welcome to the world of aerial video!!!!

 

[stitch1615]

Thank you very much guys!! That's really helpful!

OK, I don't have the time really to do a full full upgrade to a whole new platform... so what would be reasonable? What is the maximum magpixel I can get onboard while still keeping it safe and keeping my flight time to about 10 minutes...??

I was also looking at the NEX5 which is 370g battery included I believe...

My 550 (5000 3S 40C) flies about 10-12 min and it doesn't even know the GoPro is aboard.
1080 video and 11 mp still. Hard to beat for this application.

 

[Jareth_Atian]

ShanghaiPhil,

There's a reason that you see so many gimbals available for the GoPro HERO3 for people to put on their F550's and F450's: That *IS* the maximum megapixel that you can get on board while still keeping it safe and keeping your flight time to above 10 minutes. If you want to carry a NEX5, you're going to need to make the craft larger by replacing (or extending) the arms, and get larger motors/propellers.

 

[ShanghaiPhil]

Hi Jareth,

Indeed! I've been trying to do more and more reading and you're completely right. Amateur hour mistake. It was bound to happen, but I guess I'll learn. Photography, though is an environment I understand... and the GoPro is not an option for me as I'm not doing video but photos, and this is for client delivery so the quality is def not good enough. The GoPro doesn't have RAW files and the lens distortion is not appealing - though the GoPro 3 black has replaceable lenses... if I was doing video, at 4k vids, it's definitely something to consider, but not photography with an end client that intends to print.

OK. I'll have to go to the hoby shop and see what extender kit I can get that's in town and available.

THANKS a lot, I really appreciate the feedback.

ShanghaiPhil,

There's a reason that you see so many gimbals available for the GoPro HERO3 for people to put on their F550's and F450's: That *IS* the maximum megapixel that you can get on board while still keeping it safe and keeping your flight time to above 10 minutes. If you want to carry a NEX5, you're going to need to make the craft larger by replacing (or extending) the arms, and get larger motors/propellers.

 

[PeterLester]

Here is ecalc...... laws of physics rule!!!
http://www.ecalc.ch/xcoptercalc.htm?ecalc&lang=en

You will likely want a minimum of 2 axis gimbal and brushless versus the earlier servo type.... but servo type will be cheaper and possibly lighter.
The GoPro3 is only 72 grams but the gimbal systems start around 200 grams. Both allow you to have remote control of camera pitch if you want.

Sorry, complete n00b here, what is eCalc? I'm assuming it's some kind of software to calculate weight/flight time?

I think I can settle for an NEX5 which is 465g lens and battery included... so that saves 300g. I just need to find a good reliable gimbal that's super light... I only really need one axis I think...